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    Trek 1130 not start

    Hi I have a problem with the trek 1130 does not want to catch the starter spins but the engine does not catch, the bike I have new plugs, coils, batteries, tps. Stepper, Benzin flowing injectors work spark goes, checked stand. Fall sensor. Clutch Switch. I don't have an alarm flap off butterfly in sucking away help friends what to look for has anglicitana not good just translator i am from czech republic thank you for every info

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    Does the engine spin? If not it is problem the sprag clutch

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    Engine spins starter spins new freewheel

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    New my trek
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    My Tre-K 1130 failed to start yesterday after I'd stopped at a service station to fuel up. Jumped on the bike and hit the button and the engine did about half a rev and remained quiet. Not the dreaded Beneli hot start problem, but a dead battery. The bloke at the servo had a jump-starter that got the bike going, so I abandoned my ride and returned home without shutting it off again.

    Took the battery in to a battery shop to get tested today and it was struggling to manage 50 CCA, while the voltage dropped below 10V.

    The bloke tried to sell me a new battery, a Revplus STZ14-S by Exide. I'd never heard of Revplus so was a bit unsure. It had exactly the same dimensions as the Motobatt and he claimed it would have more than double the claimed CCA of the Motobatt when it was new (Motobatt specs say 150 CCA). I must have looked a bit doubtful about his claim, so he put it on the same tester as he just used on the Motobatt and it did over 400 CCA at 12V. So I handed him the money for it. It spins the 1130 engine easily and it fires up immediately. Will be interesting to see how long it'll keep up that level of performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocket View Post
    it was struggling to manage 50 CCA, while the voltage dropped below 10V.
    it would have more than double the claimed CCA of the Motobatt when it was new (Motobatt specs say 150 CCA). I must have looked a bit doubtful about his claim, so he put it on the same tester as he just used on the Motobatt and it did over 400 CCA at 12V..
    CCA stands for Cold Cranking Amps. 'Cold' is generally 0 Farenheit, but some manufacturers cheat and test at 0 Celsius.
    A 150 CCA battery should be able to deliver twice that at ambient.
    So your 400 Amp test would likely be well under 200 CCA in reality, unless it was just taken out of the deep freeze.
    The Deka ETX9BS I used a few years ago was rated at 120 CCA, & it could deliver 400 A at ambient new.

    The Tornado 900 needs at least 200 A to turn it over when hot. If it can't do that it needs a new battery.
    The 1130 will need more..
    The LH12B-4 Lithium battery I've been using for 5 years now, is rated at 400 CCA. Who knows what it can do at ambient? I've never tested it, but it just has to wink and the engine is running. (I think they used it to start the Space Shuttle)
    hooroo, Errol www.engenia.com.au [136,351 km - and counting .....]

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    Quote Originally Posted by xottj View Post
    the starter spins but the engine does not catch, the bike I have new plugs, coils, batteries, tps. Stepper, Benzin flowing injectors work spark goes, checked stand. Fall sensor. Clutch Switch.
    Try:-
    1. spark (you've seen it?) - if so the engine must be cranking ok, ie. the safety system isn't deployed.
    2. are the coils connected correctly? You can mix them up if you really try.
    3. fuel is getting sprayed into the throttles (you've seen that?) Is it enough? What is the fuel pressure? It should be ~ 3 Bar
    4. Are the injectors connected (electrically) correctly?
    5. Are the injector seals sealing? I've managed to lose a seal while installing one, and had no idea I had done so.
    6. Is the ignition timed correctly? Is the crank position sensor working reliably? People have had issues with them in the past
    7. Does the stepper actually move? Have you seen it?
    8. Does the TPS read reliably? Its a common weak point. Don't blame Benelli, it's a BMW part.
    9. Have you re-loaded the map? If the ECU won't talk to the Axione 2000, it may not be working properly at all. Its not common, but it has happened.
    10. Sometimes, after not having run for a long time, the Tre can be cantankerous. Try cranking for 10 seconds. You may be surprised (I was, once)
    11. The battery must be capable of at least 200 Amps at ambient. Less than that and you'll likely be in trouble. You wouldn't be the first Tre owner to install a new battery that wasn't up to the task


    Tick all of them off and we'll see where we go from there.
    hooroo, Errol www.engenia.com.au [136,351 km - and counting .....]

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    Hi thank you for your subject I will still solve until I start taking a few photos and video start
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engenia View Post
    CCA stands for Cold Cranking Amps. 'Cold' is generally 0 Farenheit, but some manufacturers cheat and test at 0 Celsius.
    OK Errol. Point taken. You're right. The battery guy was measuring ACA (ambient cranking amps), but the new battery did 8 times what the old one was doing, and at a higher voltage. So I figured it was worth $100 to give it a try.

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