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Just come back from a 900 mile round trip to Hay-on-Wye this weekend on the TRE. Despite my intial trepidation she never missed a beat, what a bike!

Got to ask one question of you all tho'. How do you find the TRE for U Turns? I can U turn on a majortiy of bikes without any problem, in fact I would go so far as to say very confidently. But on this trip I had to make a few U turns on the "Nelly". But I found the TRE has the turning circle of a supertanker. Then at full lock in a vain attempt to make it in a road's width, I find she just wants to dive to the ground. Being vertically challenged this is a bit of a problem, to the point I started to bottle it after a few goes and I just started walking it around the road like a novice.

Anyone else notice this or have any tips?
 

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Hi there,

Sounds like you had a great run on the bike!

Yes, I have also found the turning circle to be much wider on the Tornado than any other sports bike.

If you find the bike a bit too tall, you could try lowering it a little at both ends. That might help you out :)
 

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You can improve the turning circle a little by changing the stop screws, for one's with slightly shorter heads. It's never going to be brilliant, but mine's better as a result.
 

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Just try it on an MV F4, similar steering lock but then most of it requires the removal of you thumbs to actually be able to use. Techinically they can't pass TUV or MOT tests but in typical Italian fashion they have a 'get out of jail free' card which give them an exemption!
 

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U turn

I have yet to succesfully make a U turn on one. I have made a W turn once or twice and a few successful inventions of letters which are shaped more like a W and a V together.

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It's just not possible on most roads. Like to think my slow speed control of a bike is pretty good but when I first got the bike I ended up at 180 degrees to the kerb on roads I could easily have U-turned previously...first time was a bit of a shocker as it was quite a busy road.

What I tend to do now is find a road on a bit of an incline and do a three point turn...up the incline first moving to the the other side of the road...just point the bike to about 2 o'clock...ie not really trying to turn it too much...pull in the clutch, roll back and either full left lock or gradually depending on the width of the road... let the bike roll back to the kerb...I'm only 5'8 so need the incline to help me roll it backwards otherwise its pretty hard work. That usually gives enough room to ride away even on the tightest country lanes.

Alternative is a burnout but not the best idea for tyre wear!!
 

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What i did was to fit a pair of Adjustable clip ons so then i could lift them up about 25mm back about 25mm and that allowed me to modify the lock stops and get quite a bit more lock.Considering i am 2 up most of the time i dont have any problems now.Zebo:)
 

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What i did was to fit a pair of Adjustable clip ons so then i could lift them up about 25mm back about 25mm and that allowed me to modify the lock stops and get quite a bit more lock.Considering i am 2 up most of the time i dont have any problems now.Zebo:)
That's interesting, Zebo. What make/model of adjustable clip-ons did you fit? One of the problems with raising the bars can be clearance of the fairing, but presumably that is not a problem. No probs with cables/brake-pipes reaching either?

I couldn't change the lock-stops on mine without changing the bars, because on full lock they just clear the tank, and no more. At the moment, it is about as manouverable as a Thames barge....:D .

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Hay and U Turns

N33LY the trip to Hay was excellent. A TRE is not the best touring bike in the world, but more than made up for it in the twisties (Bishop Castle to Knighton for one). Took it easy in N Wales, as the Fuhrer Chief Constable there is a bit of a bike hater and there just seemed a bit of a zero tolerance attitude to speeding no matter what you drive/ ride.

Thanks guys for your expereinces with U Turns, I really thought I had lost the touch. I will have to consider lowering it by about an inch, so I can get both feet on the floor.
 

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Thanks guys for your expereinces with U Turns, I really thought I had lost the touch. I will have to consider lowering it by about an inch, so I can get both feet on the floor.[/QUOTE]

Hi mate.
If you are going to lower it, you will need to alter the angle of the side-stand as well. See Engenia's site/body/side-stand, for details. Don't try to bend it - it will break...:doh: .

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Ian
 

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U Turns

Hold the front brake on, put it in 1st gear, rev till you hit the red line & drop the clutch..... you will do a U turn, a Wheelie & a Burnout in one move... you will be the special one :p :p :p :p :p
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If you want to go down the lowering road, have a talk to these chaps.

http://www.drshull.co.uk/

They specialise in lowering bikes and have done at least one Tre, a girlie member on this forum I believe. ;)
 

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you will be the special one
Yeah the special one when he throws it down the road trying that one. Tiz abit of an art to get it to wheelie after the burnout, made by pros on a closed course :D
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Ian,
Gilles i think they were using the smaller risers.Fitted longer front brake hoses.Clutch cable was long enough.Not a massive improvement but worth the effort.Like i said about an inch or so upwards and further back.And the steering lock is now good enough to not get into trouble.Zebo:)
 

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Ian,
Gilles i think they were using the smaller risers.Fitted longer front brake hoses.Clutch cable was long enough.Not a massive improvement but worth the effort.Like i said about an inch or so upwards and further back.And the steering lock is now good enough to not get into trouble.Zebo:)
Thanks, mate. That's worth looking into. I actually find the riding position surprisingly comfortable, except in slow, town riding situations, but the lock is a pain, and I think I might drop it one day, when I momentarily forget how limited the lock is. Come close a couple of times...:doh:

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... I actually find the riding position surprisingly comfortable, except in slow, town riding situations...
I'm actually well impressed with the Nelli - being 6ft1 I find most jap sportsbikes way too cramped. The Tornado seems just about right - your weight is somewhat tipped forward, but feels great out on the open road. And even in town traffic it's not that bad. Comes close to being the perfect compromise - if that's not a contradiction in terms?!

Who'd have thought it? Benelli Tornado - the perfect all-rounder :rolling: :rolling:

Dom
 

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I'm actually well impressed with the Nelli - being 6ft1 I find most jap sportsbikes way too cramped. The Tornado seems just about right - your weight is somewhat tipped forward, but feels great out on the open road. And even in town traffic it's not that bad. Comes close to being the perfect compromise - if that's not a contradiction in terms?!

Who'd have thought it? Benelli Tornado - the perfect all-rounder :rolling: :rolling:

Dom
I'm 5'10", so I guess your extra 3" makes a difference :doh: :D . Less of a stretch to the bars, I mean, you smutty lot :rolling:!

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U turns

Well I am only 5ft 5. I am taller than the average Italian. I was in Sicily last month on business and was told the ave Italian male is only 1.6m tall (that is shorter than me if you use old money only). Out there I actually felt taller than average. Benelli must of had height in mind for their domestic market when designing it.

Anyway, I can manage every situation on the TRE, the open road, twisties, car parks, town riding the lot, I just find U turns the only problem. I nearly dropped her a couple of times this weekend, so eventually I jibbed out and walked it round.

Lowering sounds a hassle but will look into it.
 

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I'm actually well impressed with the Nelli - being 6ft1 I find most jap sportsbikes way too cramped. The Tornado seems just about right - your weight is somewhat tipped forward, but feels great out on the open road. And even in town traffic it's not that bad. Comes close to being the perfect compromise - if that's not a contradiction in terms?!

Who'd have thought it? Benelli Tornado - the perfect all-rounder :rolling: :rolling:

Dom

You want to try riding an MV Agusta F4 1000R if you think a Benelli's riding position is a bit lent forward. My arms and wrist ached like hell after a decent long ride and the turning circle is just as bad, did I mention that they are 25kg too heavy as well!:rolling:

That said, the build quality is supurb and they go like hell, just far too track focused for me and I raced for 6 years!
 
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